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mkingy posted on January 23rd, 2018

I'm not convinced that Skyrush is a clone model though, whilst I completely agree with the other 2 coasters you posted KingRCT3 but I think in this case it was probably designed with such a level for flooding purposes especially as if you look a little into the background there is definitely a footer that is much higher than the rest.

I did already say this. It’s purely for flooding. I’m not just guessing here ;)

In fact, construction was delayed a number of times because the area would flood whenever there was heavy rainfall.

Also for one thing, when cloning a coaster such as the models that King posted, you have to already have an original model to clone from. They do that with certain clones because it is easier/cheaper to simply copy the supports of the original model, than to rework new stress tests. Skyrush is not a clone, it is the original, and therefor required the structural stress testing anyway.

It's like the supports are playing "the floor is made of lava".

I'm not convinced that Skyrush is a clone model though, whilst I completely agree with the other 2 coasters you posted KingRCT3 but I think in this case it was probably designed with such a level for flooding purposes especially as if you look a little into the background there is definitely a footer that is much higher than the rest.

Great Bears supports are ridicules

Oh, I thought it was under the same rules as great bear.

It’s on that flat plane because the footers had to be above a certain height due to common flooding in the area. I think the actual lake is there for flooding purposes if I remember correctly.

But it was also designed on a flat plane, that picture shows it perfectly:

It's indeed common with clonable designs, as enginering is easier and you don't have to redo it each time. Here a Force 190 at Kolmarden, the concrete is hid with wooden panels:

Another extreme exemple is this Intamin 10-inversion:

For FVD++ I never use Euler anymore like newton

Actually it’s for flooding purposes.

Oh I think my mistake was that I always used Euler Orientation instead of Quaternion for shaping an Ampersand because I though it'd be better to use it since it has helix-characteristics. Let me try that again :D

@TheCodeMaster But where are the seat rotation rails?

I would assume it's because it was designed on a flat plane either anticipating being a clone model or because a height map of the terrain was unavailable during the design. Footers are much more versatile to pour to a specific place than manufacturing a new support. This is the same reason Ride of Steel at Darien Lake / SFA have the same tall supports.

Concrete is less expensive than engineering supports so by taking up a majority of the height with concrete will lower the cost. It could also have something to do with variable water levels, but I doubt that’s much of an issue there.

I never understood though why the concrete part of the footers was so tall. Anyone know why?

That does look like an ampersand! The only criticism I have is that you have some "double" transitions instead of smooth ones. You see how there is kind of a kink in the normal force graph around 63 seconds? I think that is not the ideal way to do it. It's like being Newton-y but with force rather than roll. Super hard to avoid, I know...

And is that supposed to be a best of B&M? I see a treble clef and Fury's "barrel turn" in the background!

honestly didnt like the look of the layout but wow youve supported it so well! really looks amazing

I don't think they could put supports over the stream that leads into that pond but the pond itself is fine

They were allowed to put footers in the water, but as few as possible.

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